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Simply..Rule Three....

29/3/2019

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Make Friends With iPeople Who Want The Best For You.

I am so lucky in this regard! I am surrounded by people who want the best for me, as I want the best for them.

This chapter in Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules For Life is partly autobiographical. Under headings such as The Old Hometown, My Friend Chris and His Cousin and Teenage Wasteland he lists the many heartbreaking reasons why some  people become hopeless, helpless  delinquent or even suicidal. He also lists - and this is as hard to hear - the reasons why we can't neccesarily help them until or unless they truly want help (which can be hard to judge). Under Rescuing The Damned he suggests our reasons for wanting to help may not always be virtuous.

  How dare I cast aspertions on the motives of those who are trying to help?' he says. But he does dare, and I am glad he does. It's what makes him interesting to read. He challenges a lot of our assumptions!

If you have a friend whose friendship you wouldn't recommend to your sister, or your father, or your son, why would you have such a friendship for yourself?

Friendship is a reciprocal arrangement. You are not morally obliged to help someone who is making the world a worse place.


I wonder if you have enough friends who support you, if maybe you can 'carry' one or two who take a lot more than they can give, but not, if as sometimes happens, they want to pull you down with them. Of course I am considering people who are not at the extremes of hopelessness and despair. As a clinical psychologist Peterson has long experience with those who are.

Have some humility. Use your judgement, and protect yourself from too-uncritical compassion and pity.

Self care?

If you want food for thought this book will certainly provide it, and with references from Dostoevsky to The Bible to The Simpsons it can be entertaining too.

What do you think of rule three?




8 Comments
Linda
30/3/2019 09:14:59 am

My reaction to rule 3? That the rule applies to spouses as well. There is nothing worse that being with someone who, it turns out, does want the best for us!

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Freda
30/3/2019 03:10:40 pm

Even more important in a spouse!

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Mary B
30/3/2019 03:03:20 pm

Rule 3 seems a bit artificial to me ,as if we can plan friendships. Somehow mine have grown , often over many years and with mutual support and companionship an integral part of them. As I get older I am much more aware of the difference between real friends and shallower acquaintances. I think wanting the best for friends is mutual in long-term friendship. Having said that , I was shocked when one trusted friend I turned to last year was immediately sympathetic and then distanced herself as fast as she was able! So I guess you never know!

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Freda
30/3/2019 03:15:28 pm

The best friendships are reciprocal arrangements - thoufh as you say we don't necessarliy arrange them - they often just happen. The good ones are priceless though.!

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Julia
30/3/2019 03:31:10 pm

They say that if you get to aged 70 and have 2 people you can truly call friend, you are about right...it takes awhile to really understand who a person is. And at the same time, we are each changing. I’ve kondoed just about every thing else ..and am now working on relationships..and it’s quite interesting who turns out to be superficial, isn’t it? We can use marie kondo’s method here too: does this person spark joy? I guess we can substitute words like love and compassion and empathy...it is not all joy in friendships...but meaning and support. A kindred heart. And an equal balance of give and receive too....maybe not always though..some people have long-term need for support. That is okay too.

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Freda
31/3/2019 02:08:45 pm

Does it spark joy is such a useful question isn't it! I think trust is one of the greatest rewards in a friendship or marriage or partnership.

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Julia
31/3/2019 04:33:36 pm

Yes! Trust. You are so right about that. it is the conerstone of a meaningful relationship. So true, Freda..

Swissrose
1/4/2019 12:43:32 am

I have this lined up to read, from my mother, who has been raving about it, so my comments are limited.

However, what does come to mind is that in my opinion, consideration and respect are fundamental and seem awfully lacking or perhaps unimportant to some these days, which I find sad and disappointing. With those two things in place, there is actually a lot of leeway for healthy relationships.

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